http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slagzjmdu.
And finally, Isn't it wonderful that Jesus said "But the one who does not know[his master's will] and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much more will be asked."
How do you know Jesus said that? Someone could have made it up and claimed that Jesus said it.
I quoted from the Bible on the previous page. Do you believe that nasty bit too or just the nice bits?
me - "whatcha doin?".
jw - "preaching to "save lives"?".
me - "who's gonna do the killing?".
: The issue is that you seem to think I reject 'the other parts", I don't reject them at all.
As an example, on the 'Intelligent Christain thread, you have just stated:
'The same God of the mount of foreskins and dead babie, yep, that one, you can keep that one, I don't like him very much.'
That sound like a rejection to me. This is the God of the Bible you are talking about. The God of love? If you don't accept him and all he is supposed to have done, according to the Bible, why not throw the worthless book away. Be done with it and base your faith on your personal revelations.
me - "whatcha doin?".
jw - "preaching to "save lives"?".
me - "who's gonna do the killing?".
Actually, the question was are you, were you a JW.
I was born and raised A JW but left 25 years ago. I have lived in freedom ever since. I have examined many religions and spiritual paths but concluded they are all bogus. Some of the principles are sensible to live by but once invisible beings are called into play, I leave the room.
I notice that you have quoted a part of the bible that you have based your 'stand' on while rejecting others. Have you considered that this biblical ideal is also a mistake; made on purpose by ancient man writing what they truly believed? It sound fine but God's words or Man's?
You see once you pick and choose, instead of the Bible being an inspired guide it becomes a patchwork of guesses. Accepting such ambiguous advice leads to a loss of clear thinking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slagzjmdu.
You should be a marriage guidance counsellor.
Or write a holy book of your own. I'm told it's all the rage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slagzjmdu.
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
me - "whatcha doin?".
jw - "preaching to "save lives"?".
me - "who's gonna do the killing?".
PSacramento I think your question was: But according to you it must either be LITERAL and PERFECT and everyhting is EXACT or it is rejected, right?
That is not what I said. What I said was: “Modern Christians have come clean and declared that the Bible is an unreliable history book which should be taken with a pinch of opium if it is to make sense. They have a living faith that is no longer bound to any book. Flexible, comforting and tailor made.”
This is the impression you give.
I contrasted this with the JWs view of the bible. They- “believe that the entire Bible is God's word, produce by men speaking from God as they were borne along by Holy Spirit? The book from which nothing can be taken away or added?
You have made it clear on many threads that this is not how you view the Bible. Yet, you take certain verses literally but challenge and interpret others to fit your own agenda. It is truly amazing to see the liberties you take with this ‘Holy book.’
Did God write to humans through the Bible or is it the work of men? Will it tell me what God was thinking or what shepherds and fishermen were thinking? Is it the word of God or the word of man?
It is neither perfect or exact. It seem obvious that no God had anything to do with its production. When trying to make sense of the world we live in, I would rather consider the thoughts of a scientist than those of an ancient shepherd.
Personally I see the Bible as an attempt by man to explain the world he is part of and give his life meaning. A miss-match of hearsay, postulation and imagination run wild.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slagzjmdu.
BurnTheShips and PSacramento spring to mind.
When I say 'spring,' that word is open to interpretation. Although it is a word, it is not be confused with the word.
Its meaning may alter, depending on what you want it to mean. Its exact meaning may depend on your own relationship with God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slagzjmdu.
It's also a rejection of the bible as the word of God.
This is a point I have made many times. But it has been explained to me that the Word of God is Jesus. The bible is whatever you want it to be, and who am I to disagree? Glad you are still entire after getting your posts cut off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slagzjmdu.
Luck it's only your posts. Why don't you quit while you are ahead?
me - "whatcha doin?".
jw - "preaching to "save lives"?".
me - "who's gonna do the killing?".
When I watch what you do with the scriptures I start to think of magic shows. The way you switch between quoting the Bible as fact and brushing aside the bits that you have decided are opinion.
The sleight of hand, the distraction, the collapsing boxes. Tricks are convincing when they are done well. Unfortunately I know how the tricks are done.
To conjure well and convincingly you have to accept that it is a trick and be the master of illusion. Unfortunately you are part of the illusion.
